Topic: Tlb italy 2008

[Triggerhappybaby]

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I cannot imagine Burger missing out on a trip where everyone else is going. Without wishing to turn this into a challenge of wills, Burger if you don't come on this I'll eat my own hair.

[naughty lee]

richard..... you've changed!
ha ha!
I've already eaten all my hair, that's how sure I am he will go.
everyone bombing it about, getting lashed on a night, dancing, partying etc. whilst richard stays in croyden polishing an old capri?
do me a fucking favour! '>
on second thoughts maybe he's  become a born again mormon?
in fact I think I can even picture it Naaa! must be an LSD flashback '>

[Alba]

a born again mor_on thats more likely '>
funny that you're mentioning changes, he's been watching loads of episodes of Father Ted lately, he's going to born-again as Father Dennis, the preacher of the stunters!  use the back brake my sons...
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[naughty lee]

ok girls!
heres some dates for your diaries!
wednesday the 25th of june until friday the fourth of july 2008 (Northerners overnighting in london on the friday night in order to visit the Ace cafe)
looks like there will be at least 4 from teesside coming down picking up (no. 5) T.O.M. at donny on the way down.

These dates wont suit everyone, im aware of this, but you cant say you didnt get enough notice (to lie and scheme your way out of whetever is already pencilled in) '>

[Burger]

Ha ha ha, I like that, Lie and Scheme!! ha ha ha '>

Im in, I know Alba is and Im Damn sure Trigger and Stu wont miss it for the world, Im almost certain Mattp will have managed to delay departure long enough to find 5K to buy another minter and Crash will be there for sure.

Me, I dont think Ill be on a road bike, I rekcon Im gonna do a drive through the night with all the luggage in the car or I may rent an FJR1300 for kicks. Who knows. '>

[naughty lee]

excellent!  
who else is gonna be coming then?

[naughty lee]

a look at the cost of ferries.

Outward

Route Harwich - Hook of Holland
Date Tuesday, 24 June 2008
Departs 23:45
Arrives 07:45
Vehicle Motorcycle+1 pas.
Stena Plus & Cabins Single cabin inside

Return

Route Hook of Holland - Harwich
Date Friday, 04 July 2008
Departs 14:30
Arrives 20:00
Motorcycle+1 pass.
Stena Plus & Cabins Single cabin inside

Total price: £105.00 (return)


alternatively set off the next day


Outward -

Route Harwich - Hook of Holland
Date Wednesday, 25 June 2008
Departs 09:00
Arrives 16:15
 
Return -
Route Hook of Holland - Harwich
Date Friday, 04 July 2008
Departs 14:30
Arrives 20:00
Stena Plus & Cabins Single cabin inside
(1xm/c and 1 pass RTN)
Total price: £95.00


or megga budget



Route Depart Arrive/Duration
Dover to Dunkerque Wed 25 Jun 08 12:00 15:00 2hr crossing
Dunkerque to Dover Fri 4 Jul 08 18:01 19:00 2hr crossing

total cost £36.00 CHUFFING CHEAP!

[Burger]

Lee, Train or ferry into France. Then from there hack off 500 miles to Burgundy and then head east, from there we need to head to Zurich. Before Zurich I suggest finding a cheap B+B or hostel.

Up in the morning and your straight into the swiss twisties. by night you will be in the middle of Italy. I did it in one day. '>

[Burger]

Road into St Moritz and out into the Italian border,



HURM, sex wee in my biker pants!

[jimc]

Penned (not pencilled) in here.  I'm up for this one, full blast.

[john]

just a thought but considering the cost and effort involved wouldn't it be pref to go for a full two weeks ?

[MATTP]

Time is always an issue with any trip. But if you knock out an ave of 300 miles a day then it gives you loads of time to hit the drink at night and be on bike by 9:30am '> .
Can't say I'd have fun on that picture of a road in Italy. Not flow to it.

[Burger]

'> '>  nice one matt,

Im up for anything for any time. Decided this is too much off a good trip to miss. We (me and Alba ) will probably hook it up with a stay at her folks as there is no excuse for not visiting.

I have some wicked routes planned so who ever is planning this can have them lol. Im gonna kick back and enjoy a holiday.

For me the first thing rides will be good, I imagine Ill be getting up on my own for blast and coming back at lunch to pick up the rest of the gang '>

[MATTP]

It'll be better to have roads like in Spain when we left Burgos. They were smooth and nice 90+ corners. Having a couple of good sharpe corners like in your picture helps to keep you awake and test if you have cooked the pads '> .

[Alba]

Matt doesnt trust the Italians to make good roads.
i cant blame him.
but to think the Spanish ones are better?
phew...
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[MATTP]

No, it's the amount of corners before you can get the bike into 3rd. I'm more into the fast corners like we had with our ride in Spain. There must be roads like this in Italy as there has been talk of them having car and bikes that are near the top of racing '>

[Alba]

i'll make sure it will be ready for you sir.
your trip is scheduled in july 2020, was it?
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[DangerMouse]

Italy i cant commit too.  However the year after we thats Edd and I have a much bigger trip in the pipeline which would involve Spain Santeder to Burgos then onto south of France, Alps then onto Stelvio pass voted best road in the World.  Then off to Germany and fit a few laps of the Nurburgring.  Thinking a 10 day holiday should fit this all in and no booking of hotels just head off and see what happens.  Would love to do Italy with you guys though but 2009 this Journey will def be happening.

[naughty lee]

Quote (DangerMouse @ Nov. 15 2007,14:58)

Italy i cant commit too.  However the year after we thats Edd and I have a much bigger trip in the pipeline which would involve Spain Santeder to Burgos then onto south of France, Alps then onto Stelvio pass voted best road in the World.  Then off to Germany and fit a few laps of the Nurburgring.  Thinking a 10 day holiday should fit this all in and no booking of hotels just head off and see what happens.  Would love to do Italy with you guys though but 2009 this Journey will def be happening.

if you can do this in ten days, i'll w*nk myself off in Leicester square!
2008 Italy
2009 Gibraltar (10-14 days)

[DangerMouse]

excellent il bring my camera! '>

[naughty lee]

Quote (Burger @ Nov. 14 2007,23:30)

Lee, Train or ferry into France. Then from there hack off 500 miles to Burgundy and then head east, from there we need to head to Zurich. Before Zurich I suggest finding a cheap B+B or hostel. Up in the morning and your straight into the swiss twisties. by night you will be in the middle of Italy. I did it in one day. '>

500 miles in a day is quite a hack (not impossible though) are the roads good enough to maintain...say...90mph?
remember some of us will have already covered some 350 miles gettting to Dover (if we cross there)

ive just been looking at a map, would it not make sense to head straight ot zurich?

[Burger]

Quote (naughty lee @ Nov. 15 2007,20:22)

Quote (Burger @ Nov. 14 2007,23:30) Lee, Train or ferry into France. Then from there hack off 500 miles to Burgundy and then head east, from there we need to head to Zurich. Before Zurich I suggest finding a cheap B+B or hostel. Up in the morning and your straight into the swiss twisties. by night you will be in the middle of Italy. I did it in one day. '> 500 miles in a day is quite a hack (not impossible though) are the roads good enough to maintain...say...90mph? remember some of us will have already covered some 350 miles gettting to Dover (if we cross there) ive just been looking at a map, would it not make sense to head straight ot zurich?

The way I did was E17 Toll down to Troyes, took about 3 hours two stops for fuel and fags. From Troyes its fast sweeping A road. nice scenary proper France heading East to Chamont on the 54. Its then a variation of the 54 to Basel where I suggest we would stay the night. From there you have a little bit of bother getting through Zurich and then on to the good stuff. We should be in Burgamo in Northern Italy by 3pm the next day is progress is up. If not we can crash in a B+B there for the second night and have a nice amble through, such a nice place to ride you dont wanna rush through it. Your then at the tip and can go any where from there. South West Coast and then head over the border, play in the mountains, head to the north coast, or do the lakes which are not far from there either. Its down to you guys!!!

To put it into perspective I set off from St Moritz Switzerland at 8am. I was home and in bed for 11pm the same night. I would have made it from PArma in Italy home in 20 hours if I had not been stopped by the police helicopter in northern italy. You cant go wrong in this neck of Europe, its all wonderfull.

Ill be on a rental FRJ so no scratching for me and TOM will be on the Rocket for pegs need looking after.

[DangerMouse]

Quote (naughty lee @ Nov. 15 2007,20:22)

Quote (Burger @ Nov. 14 2007,23:30) Lee, Train or ferry into France. Then from there hack off 500 miles to Burgundy and then head east, from there we need to head to Zurich. Before Zurich I suggest finding a cheap B+B or hostel. Up in the morning and your straight into the swiss twisties. by night you will be in the middle of Italy. I did it in one day. '> 500 miles in a day is quite a hack (not impossible though) are the roads good enough to maintain...say...90mph? remember some of us will have already covered some 350 miles gettting to Dover (if we cross there) ive just been looking at a map, would it not make sense to head straight ot zurich?

I did 1200 miles in one night from Valencia.  Took me 18hrs of constant riding mind you.  Soo close on running out of fuel a few times.  Mind you i was on a mission.  Can i have a badge for that?  500 miles is a full days riding.  The Wales trips weve covered 550 miles of fast riding but knackered the next day.  Id say it would be comfortable to do 300 to 400 miles a day.

Not that im jelous of not being able to go.  lol.  Have to fit a few track days to make up for it instead.   '>

[naughty lee]

why cant you come chris?

[naughty lee]

After a good chin wag and gallons of coffee with David from Cleveland advanced motorcyclists group, the trip to Italy has come a little further.

The plan is for the main group to be based in Milan, the reason behind this is that within approx 150 miles of this city there are a number of attractions.
The lakes, Monte Carlo, the twisting roads of the Swiss mountains, Venice… the list goes on.

If we take it easy we will spend 3 days getting there, have four days there and spend three days getting home.

The plan.

Depart UK Wednesday the 25th of June 07:00 from Teesside
Meet up with TOM (TheLondonBikers) at Doncaster; continue to Dover, meeting up with the rest of the London contingent at the docks.

Ferry crossing at 2pm arriving in Dunkirk at 5pm CET (remember it will still be daylight and probably sunny)
Dunkirk to “Mons” (101.2miles) staying there overnight

Thursday the 26th of June.
Depart Mons after breakfast and travel to Strasbourg, a total of 278.7 miles, stopping half way for lunch.
This will have us in Strasbourg early afternoon, sort out accommodation, mooch around the town, eat, drink, take photos etc.
Staying there overnight.

Friday the 27th
Depart Strasbourg after breakfast and travel to Milan. A total of 297.9 miles, stopping halfway for lunch.
Again we will arrive in the early afternoon, giving us plenty of time to arrange accommodation for the 4 nights we will be staying there.

Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday can all be spent exploring the areas around Milan, Those wishing to do an overnight (or a 2 day trip) to Rome/San Marino/Florence/ Pisa /Geneva will be able to leave the main party from here do so.

If you just wish to chill out and take in the surroundings of Milan, of course you can just do that instead!

The return journey.

Departing Milan on the morning of Tuesday the 1st of July heading for Munich (Munchen) in Germany. A total distance of 306 miles, stopping halfway for lunch.
Arriving early afternoon, it should give us plenty of time to sort out somewhere to stay before we sample any of the local delicacies (which will be beer in my case) obviously staying in Munich overnight.

Wednesday the 2nd of July
Munich to Koblenz …..317 miles… same protocol as the previous day, overnight in Koblenz

Thursday the 3rd of July
Koblenz to Dunkirk…..290 miles..Overnighting in Dunkirk to get rid of any Euros that you still have.

Friday the 4th of July
Lie in, late “ish” ferry around midday arriving in UK early afternoon.
Londoners away to get sorted out for the ACE café, Northerners sort accommodation close to ACE café for Friday night. Alternatively northerners head back home upon arrival into the UK….. (I will probably be at the ACE)