Author Topic: Shop sold me my ybr125 without telling me (Read 2927 times)

StrumminRonin · « **Reply #50 on:** 03, June, 2007, 02:40:37 PM »

Hi Minnie, thanks for asking.

Need to confirm opening hours with shop first... Called the shop but there was no answer. Will call again.

As far as getting down there, and putting together a few people to accompany me and be witnesses, I have a friend who can come with me on Wednesday - if I pay for van hire @ £50 per trip, which I found on MCN.

Alternatively, a colleague has offered to come with me (presumably NOT on a work day), and my neighbour who has a school-bus-with-no-seats-and-limited-anchorage-points is happy to take me there on Saturday.

Is Saturday any better for you to come with us?

« **Reply #51 on:** 03, June, 2007, 06:12:05 PM »

Quote (MATTP @ May 31 2007,11:28)

If you are to learn one thing from this, please let it be that you will never buy a Yamaha again

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I know the topic is not a joke but could not hold back taking into account that Yam (Clint) is the one giving you a hand

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No its Not a Joke Matt

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I cant Promise getting a refund if the bike is not recorded as Cat C But Can still Help in other ways

Matt you be surprised in what i can do if people have mis sales Dosen't even take me long to get a refund and I go through the Proper Proceeds , but have a way in speeding it up usally

Tommorow I have a Problem to sort lets wait till i have a result because ******** Motorcycles is about to close down if he messes me about, No one Rips me off and get away with it

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Can't tell the name of the Company untill Tommorow as you Probably Know Why

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StrumminRonin · « **Reply #52 on:** 03, June, 2007, 06:57:27 PM »

Clint, are you free this Sat?

Not sure what kind of time I'm talking about yet. Does depend on neighbour and shop opening hours.

Will post update on Monday.

« **Reply #53 on:** 03, June, 2007, 07:09:11 PM »

I'll Know more Tommorow as my car is in shambles at moment minus proper tools and i have a Problem with a Motorcycle dealer to sort out, I think you Jinxed me

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StrumminRonin · « **Reply #54 on:** 03, June, 2007, 07:14:44 PM »

Sorry, Clint, I might just have.

Then again, I am so on fire now I could go there right NOW...

Okay, let's see how Monday goes.

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Burger · « **Reply #55 on:** 03, June, 2007, 07:17:15 PM »

I take it you bought this bike over the phone with out seeing it?

How do you know the dealer ticked the box on the form to say no V5 present due to insurance salvage?

StrumminRonin · « **Reply #56 on:** 03, June, 2007, 07:34:14 PM »

Burger, it's like this... At the time, based on information I was given, I believed that the bike was "buy-able", so let's ust start from there.

I decided to buy, and the guy at shop went hunting for the log book. They didn't have it.

So I filled out the V62 to apply for new log book, signed it, with some bits blank and was told that they would do the rest, and paid up in full.

2 weeks later (on 30 May) I got letter from DVLA, with the V62 that I signed attached. The shop had ticked the box on the form to tell the DVLA that the bike is a Cat C.

That's how I got to know.

This has become far too fishy and I SWEAR I WILL NEVER buy from a non-authorised dealer ever again.

I just want my money back.

Burger · « **Reply #57 on:** 03, June, 2007, 07:42:09 PM »

MArge simpson hhhhhmmmm, So you bought the bike with all the damage visable but they did not tell you it was a write off?

DVLA can not confirm that its a registered write off?
A HPI check cant confirm that its a registered write off?

Maybe that the it aint a reistered write off, That its all fine and the dealer ticked the easiste box on the form to avoid pissin around and applying for a new one?

Plus any dealer knows that no one in their right mind would buy a bike without a V5 present from an unauthorised dealer so they prob thought they were never gonna sell it and would rather just tick the box to say it had been lost.

Im not trying to be critical but Im just saying you might actually have a decent bike, You might have a bike that could be put right for the same money you saved buying one in good conidtion. HAve you spoken to them since? HAve you spoken with the person who sold you it? Have you costed up the parts to put it right? Have you contacted a salvage dealer to find out how much the bike is worth. Serious, You may have a decent motor there. And you said it before you do like the bike.

':rock:'

StrumminRonin · « **Reply #58 on:** 03, June, 2007, 07:47:35 PM »

Burger, thanks. You might be right had it been a different bike. 2 people have looked at it separately after I have bought it. The two people don't know each other, AFAIK, yet they have said very similar things.

HPI and DVLA were exchanging notes so I need to call them again on Monday to see what progress they have made.

Keeping it would be the Plan B that I don't want to execute.

« **Reply #59 on:** 03, June, 2007, 08:46:20 PM »

by the sounds of the year and type of bike you might of payed the price or a little over for an exellent condition bike

Ps.did the dealer ask for any money to pay for the new logbook, ie:V62 form

V62 form is not dealers responsibility to fill in it yours,

Did you ever have any of the paper work of the bike?

Did you ever have the little green slip off the log book V5c?

« **Reply #60 on:** 03, June, 2007, 11:54:36 PM »

i think we all should go down there on Saturday and intimidate i mean reason with em

« **Reply #61 on:** 04, June, 2007, 03:17:49 AM »

Quote (GooseCarpeDiemMC @ June 03 2007,23:54)

i think we all should go down there on Saturday and intimidate i mean reason with em

I second that things can work out alot better if theres People to Support your Claim but can rest assure you over payed on the bike

Ps . I Got a Problem too sort out at 8:30Am this morning if it Don't Sort, I hope i have Support to help me Sort it out?,

I Believe us People hate Rouge Traders and we can have our own law With in Legal limits So war it is if Problem Don't Sort then i'll put up a thread with Plan of Action as if the idiot Can get away with theft and deception with full evidence Against him then Authoritys will be Questioned

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StrumminRonin · « **Reply #62 on:** 04, June, 2007, 08:19:08 AM »

Quote (Yamaha_Riders_Do_It_Better @ June 03 2007,20:46)

by the sounds of the year and type of bike you might of payed the price or a little over for an exellent condition bike

Ps.did the dealer ask for any money to pay for the new logbook, ie:V62 form

V62 form is not dealers responsibility to fill in it yours,

Did you ever have any of the paper work of the bike?

Did you ever have the little green slip off the log book V5c?

Hi Yam-RDIB - best of luck with your "negotiations" with your dealer too.

No, my dealer did not ask for money for V62 form. That's why DVLA sent it back to me, and that wasy how I found out about the Cat C.

Absolutely NO paperwork for bike.

Never saw any green slip.

HPI result:
Bike not recorded stolen
Bike never recorded as write off. Have sent HPI and DVLA to investigate as bike has been ina ccident before I bought it.

P.S. Thanks, Goose.

« **Reply #63 on:** 04, June, 2007, 08:29:13 AM »

Me & Minnie Should be free saturday, shout if you need company..

StrumminRonin · « **Reply #64 on:** 04, June, 2007, 09:27:01 AM »

Thank you ever so much, Sidewinder368 (and Minnie). Hope your wrist is better.

Calling shop now.

... setting up office phone so I can record my conversation with shop...

EDIT: The guy that speaks English better won't be in till 11:30.

2nd EDIT: Phoned RAC re HPI check. HPI and DVLA are still exchanging notes about just who is right about the Cat C.

No matter what - according to the DTI:

Q9. Must I accept a credit note instead of a refund?

It depends on why you want to return the goods.

• If you have changed your mind, then the shop doesn't have to do anything.

• But if the goods are faulty, incorrectly described or not fit for purpose, then you are entitled to your money back (provided you act quickly), and you certainly don't have to take a credit note

• If you do accept a credit note in these circumstances, watch out, as there may be restrictions on their use.

• If the shop displays a sign stating they only give credit notes instead of refunds, they might be breaking the law and you could report them to Consumer Direct on 08454 04 05 06. Consumers in Northern Ireland should contact Consumer Line on 0845 600 6262.

Q10. What can I do to claim damages or if the retailer will not honour my rights?

The Small Claims Court procedure provides the means to bring a claim, for up to £5000 (in England and Wales), at modest cost and without the need for a solicitor. Your local Citizens Advice Bureau can advise on how to make a claim.

http://www.dti.gov.uk/consumers/fact-sheets/page38311.html

Things are looking a lot brighter. I think we deserve a round of beers when this is finally settled.

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StrumminRonin · « **Reply #65 on:** 04, June, 2007, 12:49:17 PM »

UPDATE

Hi all. Am going to need all the help from the TLB now as the shop is not considering a refund at all.

Could I ask those who will consider coming to the shop with me to please PM me? Will confirm date - who knows if the guys from the shop might be reading this thread...

« **Reply #66 on:** 04, June, 2007, 01:13:10 PM »

Quote (StrumminRonin @ June 04 2007,12:49)

UPDATE

Hi all. Am going to need all the help from the TLB now as the shop is not considering a refund at all.

Could I ask those who will consider coming to the shop with me to please PM me? Will confirm date - who knows if the guys from the shop might be reading this thread...

Sue the shop, a small claims court summons is dead easy to draw up and when the bailiffs start taking thier goods away the shop will rue the day they messed with ya! If you need help with drawing a summons Pm me.

Mr Rizla · « **Reply #67 on:** 04, June, 2007, 01:39:16 PM »

Quote (StrumminRonin @ June 04 2007,12:49)

UPDATE

Hi all. Am going to need all the help from the TLB now as the shop is not considering a refund at all.

Could I ask those who will consider coming to the shop with me to please PM me? Will confirm date - who knows if the guys from the shop might be reading this thread...

when u going to visit ?
I could always go in, say 20 mins in advance and realy talk the chap up for buying a R1 or sim, claim im looking ot trade my bike in... get him all hot and eager, then u walk in, and i change mind because u start screaming the place down (marks will be given for style and grace), nothin quite like a lost sale to change minds

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StrumminRonin · « **Reply #68 on:** 04, June, 2007, 02:05:25 PM »

Quote (dancbr600rider @ June 04 2007,13:13)

Sue the shop, a small claims court summons is dead easy to draw up ... If you need help with drawing a summons Pm me.

Thanks. PM sent.

piercedprincess · « **Reply #69 on:** 04, June, 2007, 02:08:44 PM »

Am I the only one watching this thread with morbid interest..................its like a soap opera....whats gonna happen next?

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Seriously tho, hope it all works out in the end!!!!

HellsBells · « **Reply #70 on:** 04, June, 2007, 02:13:56 PM »

No your not the only one PP we are ALL watching in the office here

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Same here we all hope it works out for you Strummin

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StrumminRonin · « **Reply #71 on:** 04, June, 2007, 02:32:23 PM »

LOL, percedprincess and HellsBells. Thank you for the well wishes. I wish we had met under better circumstances.

Just spoken to the mobile mechanic who I found on here - he's all booked up this week!!! Drats drats drats drats drats.

Eventhough my eyes are pretty good with these things, who am I to say to the shop with authority that the forks are bent? I need a professional assessment on the bike's forks QUICK. Anyone?

Aceman · « **Reply #72 on:** 04, June, 2007, 05:13:10 PM »

Just confirming that I'm coming along on Saturday as a witness.

StrumminRonin · « **Reply #73 on:** 04, June, 2007, 05:38:29 PM »

Thank you very much, Aceman. Your support is MUCH appreciated.

Trisckie · « **Reply #74 on:** 04, June, 2007, 08:21:16 PM »

Count me in too

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