Topic: Veggie oil help wanted

[naughty lee]

RESULT!
just got it going again!
ingredients
1x fuel filter full of diesel
1xblowtorch applied to the fuel lines and fuel pump
1xset of jump leads off the works van.
thank feck!
been running for about 40 mins now, gonna whizz back to my flat remove fuel filter do the same again, run it two mins, refill it again and leave it!

hopefully with the wave of a blowtorch on thursday night i'll be winging my way back up north, oh and ill remember to park the right way round so that its not a chew on getting to the battery should it need jumping again!
thanks for all the advice and offers of help from all forum members.
Lee

[Weaver]

Well thank goodness for that though our self starter would have been easier cos you don't need another vehicle near it then!  '>

[john]

Thank goodness for that ! '>

I've done a bit of research and it seems that it is perfectly feasible to run a diesel engine on 100% vegetable oil with a few minor modifications.

It seems that the type of injectors you have is the main issue but it seems that just about any engine can be run on it if is  started with diesel fuel and warmed up first (a small separate tank and a switching valve takes care of that) the tank is heated by tapping into the cooling system of the engine, once the engine is warmed up it can then run on nothing more than veg oil, no mucking about making your own biodiesel. It's a fascinating idea.

Seems you can also get an LPG gas conversion for a diesel and run on a mixture of gas and vegetable oil which can actually increase power output too !

[TallGuy]

Quote (john @ Dec. 09 2006,13:23)

..... conversion for a diesel and run on a mixture of gas and vegetable oil which can actually increase power output too !

Where do you put the chips?  

[john]

by all accounts using old vegetable oil from the chippy, which you have to filter, still produces a rich fried food aroma as you drive along the road '>

[Mr Rizla]

In the news a few weeks ago, they had a story of some chap that went round the london chippies getting old used oil and filtering it and reselling it back to the public

[john]

apparently your meant to pay duty on vegetable oil if you use it as a fuel, some 40p a litre apparently, though I have no idea how the government intend to enforce it, sure those bastards will find a way  '>

[TallGuy]

Our local radio station did a week long experiment running a car on chip oil starting with a weak mix and ending on a chip oil only run at the end. THe engine wasn't altered so the results were biased but it ran. There were complaints about the smell though and it did smoke quite a bit.

[john]

I get the low carbon emission angle but I would have thought that particulates emitted (or whatever they're called ) would be just as bad, if not worse. Imagine a town centre on a hot summers day with every car running on vegetable oil ?

Would be like my kitchen, when I'm cooking, every smoke alarm in the house needs it's batteries removed first ! '>

[naughty lee]

Quote (john @ Dec. 09 2006,19:25)

I get the low carbon emission angle but I would have thought that particulates emitted (or whatever they're called ) would be just as bad, if not worse. Imagine a town centre on a hot summers day with every car running on vegetable oil ? Would be like my kitchen, when I'm cooking, every smoke alarm in the house needs it's batteries removed first ! '>

heres an interesting fact, you know about this euro bolllock about cutting our fuel emmisions by ten percent by the year 2000 and whatever, well,
if the petrol companies added just 10% straight vegetable oil (SVO) it would cut the typical diesel engines emmission of naughty gasses by 15% !
even though they stink a bit if you run it on pure SVO your not putting out any carsonogenics or other nasty stuff (even though the car smells like a doughnut factory and appears smokey)
this makes so much sense that the government have rejected the idea and decided instead that further taxing was the answer.. well, fancy that!

[Courior]

I have seen this on a program called MythBusters on discovery.. they had a 3L diesel merc. got old oil from chippy and filtered it and it went perfectly and returned same power/mpg as regular diesel. mind u it was in USA and the weather was pretty warm!!!

[naughty lee]

it must be true, i topped mine up with it and it didnt emit any form of dirty gasses for 3 days..
probbably on account of me not being able to start the tw4t !!
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